By rj on Tuesday, December 18, 2001 - 11:11 am:

Hello there, just a few quick points. Do not forget after you install 4.11c and when you start your computer give the wheel a full left right motion. This should set the full range and center it in the center. If you do this then calibrate in GPL it should be fine, and if you turn the wheel all the way to the left and all the way to the right once befor eyou start GPL after you have aready calibrated it should stop the need to recalibrate everytime.

By Marcus on Thursday, December 13, 2001 - 04:15 pm:

I have a MOMO wheel too. If i install the latest official drivers from logitech (4.11) it centres to the left a few degrees and when i steer left in the control panel it goes from 90% to 100% very quickly.

If i install the latest drivers from wingmanteam (4.11c) my wheel centres slightly to the right now and when i steer left in the control panel it goes from 0% to 10% faster than it does on the right hand side.

I just want to get my damn wheel straight so it turns properly from left to right evenly through the motion and centres in the middle. How can i?

What`s the latest on development of new drivers or does anyone know how to tweak the wheel through software/firmware so i get mine to operate smooth and straight.

It`s a great wheel otherwise. Just this damn centring/steering problem is driving me nuts.

By Frank Neubauer on Tuesday, December 11, 2001 - 02:33 am:

the same a-little-bit-to-the-left-centering-problem here... tried every hint and of course the lastest wingmansoftware 4.11c installed.

also I have to recalibrate everytime I enter gpl.

using win2k here, getting error-message if I try to clean the calibration-values using dx-tweak.

any suggestions? yours fvn.

By Francois on Sunday, December 9, 2001 - 03:41 am:

In my case, moving the wheel fully right/left (in Windows) solves the centering problem but not perfectly (it is slightly too much turned on the left).
Curiously, when I launch Rally Trophy, and just when you are on the racing track (i.e where the force feedback mecanism activates itself), the wheel turn a little more to the left. So the center position is not really perfect ! (even after moving the wheel fully right/left directly in the game).
I never had these kind of problems with my "old" red Logitech wheel. So for the time being, I'm a little disapointed with my Momo wheel.
Finally, just a question for Wingman Team :
Are you going to solve these different centering problems or we must consider the latest drivers are final on this point ?
PS: sorry for my bad english but I'm french.

By Tom (Tom) on Saturday, December 8, 2001 - 03:41 pm:

Sury, Madmax - does Aidan's suggestion solve the problem? It is, as he stated rightly, necessary to move the wheel left/right to the ends once after boot or plug-in so the autocalibration can adapt to your wheel.

..tom

By Sury on Saturday, December 8, 2001 - 01:38 am:

I totally agree with Mad Max. The wheel is not in centre, and what's worse, it pulls slightly to the right in all games! E.g. Nascar Heat, Rally Trophy, etc. Please correct this BIG issue as soon as possible!!!

By aidan on Friday, December 7, 2001 - 08:43 am:

Mad Max, after you install the wheel you should rotate the wheel to the extreme left and then to the extreme right. This will allow the autocalibration to "learn" the best range and center position of the wheel. After doing this the wheel may still be slightly off center...but not too much so that it would actually cause a problem in playing games.

By MAD MAX on Thursday, December 6, 2001 - 10:10 pm:

Hi,
I have the Logitech MOMO Force for 2 days, but I've a big problem : I have Win 98-SE, DirectX 8.0,Windows Installer, Wingman 4.11.332, but my wheel is NOT centred, because when in Control Panel of periphericals the wheel is centred, the MOMO turn on the right, also if I prooved to re-install all for several times.......
How could I solve this BIG problem, for your opinion ??
Thx

Mad Max

By Mark Langille on Thursday, December 6, 2001 - 03:35 am:

Ok but is there any way to recalibrate without moving the parts back?
Nothing moved BTW and I never touched the gas pedal, it was always like this even before the mod.
The question really is there any way to recalibrate the Momo system?

By Tom (Tom) on Wednesday, December 5, 2001 - 08:22 pm:

If it doesn't calibrate correctly after you took back out the squash ball, I guess the re-assembly wasn't done correctly. Unmodified pedals should calibrate without any trouble - if they have problems, it's most likely a moving part which isn't quite back where it is supposed to be.

..tom

By Mark Langille on Wednesday, December 5, 2001 - 07:34 am:

I have since removed the ball as I didn't liek the feel and limited travel but I know others that love it.
On a related not I noticed that in the game controller in Windows that hte gas pedal doesn't seem to calibrate correctly, ie it's not showing as coming back up all the way, sits like at 2-5% when not being pressed.
Would the mentioned patch fix this as well?

By Johnny Lugnuts on Wednesday, December 5, 2001 - 01:33 am:

Fixer, this tweak is as easy as taking candy from a baby.

Pay attention, son.

Go to your local sporting goods store and buy a squash ball. Not a soccer ball, or a football, or even a baseball. You want a squash ball. Some guys swear by the blue dot squash balls, others prefer the red dot balls, and still some others, believe it or not, choose the yellow dot balls. I didn't notice a difference among different coloured balls, but for what it's worth, I think mine is a Dunlop blue dot ball.

Invert your MOMO pedals and remove the bottom cover, which is fastened by ten screws. Take care not to disturb the wiring and/or the pots. Remove the brake pedal spring entirely. Place squash ball into the bottom cover, in the indentation normally used to hold the spring in place. In order to facilitate easy reassembly, hold ball in place with some, as my little daughter might call it, "sticky tape". Transparent or "Scotch" brand tape, commomly found in any office, will do the trick. Again with the unit inverted, ensure that the wiring harnesses are in place, and that the pedals and pots properly aligned. Replace cover, being careful not to over tighten the screws. Recalibrate.

The squash ball makes a world of difference for me. I've used this tweak on all three Logitech wheels I own. I've yet to try the the .reg file that came with the Beta 5 patch, as I'm happy with the set up as it is.

Cheers,

Johnny Lugnuts

By aidan on Monday, December 3, 2001 - 08:27 pm:

It is best to make a post with your questions in rec.autos.simulators newgroup ... some people there have made such changes and could give some comments

By Fixer on Monday, December 3, 2001 - 05:22 pm:

I've seen other guys mention this.....and not that I want to.....but.....how does one add a squash ball to the brake pedal? Does it add that much resistance to the pedal movement?

By Tom (Tom) on Monday, December 3, 2001 - 03:44 pm:

Have a look at the Squashball.reg file that was in the patch... should take care of it. Double-click the reg file (it's set up for squash balls on the brake only), unplug/replug your wheel, and see if that works for you.

Hope this helps,
..tom

By Mark Langille on Saturday, December 1, 2001 - 04:18 pm:

Is ther any way to manually calibrate the Momo wheel?
I added a squash ball in the pealds and now it doesn't have the full movement and would like to recalibrate it if possible.