By tom on Sunday, April 16, 2006 - 12:11 am:

The general rule - the older the better. LWFF has limitation in terms of number of forces and the update rate of those forces; older games tend to be more "conservative" with using and updating forces, whereas newer game tend to create a whole bunch of forces ahead of time rather than on-demand. The newer wheels work well with that sort of game behavor, but the older ones work better if their limitations are taken into account - much like the older games used to work.

By Taw on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 01:53 am:

if u dont have an answer (Tom) then can any one help.
plz

By taw on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 01:26 am:

thx again tom, u saved my life :)
ur the man ;)

one last ques, what games r most likely to play with LWFF (red) on win XP, including force feedback.
thx

By tom on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 09:27 am:

http://www.wingmanteam.com/discus/messages/4/3480.html has a link to Schumi's Ball Bearing Conversion Kit which includes an excellent guide on disassembly/reassembly of the wheel.

By Taw on Saturday, April 8, 2006 - 05:49 am:

ok i got u tom, thx

again, the same wheel has the left shifter works once a year ;), so it can be fixed. i tried opening it(the wheel), i took all the screws off at the back of it and still the cover didnt get off. fixing it is too easy so i need to get the cover off.

any help i can get. plz

btw: i have LWFF (red).

Taw

By tom on Thursday, April 6, 2006 - 08:07 am:

The history is as follows:

4.40 had built-in support for LWFF
4.50 had support removed into a separate package (did you read the readme?)
4.60 had support removed and no separate package was made

As mentioned before, the last release that supports LWFF is 4.50. I don't know what would happen if you had 4.60 and installed the add-on package.


Also, XP has a built-in driver that works. You don't get anything fancy, you can't adjust FF, and it has a few bugs.

By taw on Thursday, April 6, 2006 - 01:39 am:

thx, tom :)
but i use 4.60 driver supported by logitech in the website, and its working.
1)isn't this an update?
2)if no, is 4.50 a better one?
thx for replying.
taw

By tom on Wednesday, April 5, 2006 - 10:34 am:

LWFF is a really old wheel and has some limitations as far as what kinds of force-feedback it can perform (number of effects, some effect parameters). On Windows 98 (with both serial port and USB port connection). Both NFS:U2 and NFS:MW are quite new games that have not been written with this old hardware in mind, so I am not surprised that things don't work quite as expected.

The last driver that supported LWFF is 4.50 + add-on driver - see the readme in http://www.wingmanteam.com/files/releases/4.50/ - and no further updates are expected.

By taw on Wednesday, April 5, 2006 - 12:36 am:

helloooooooo,
i guess this message has been posted for 2 days and not a reply, i guess why?!
is this site active or what?...:(

By taw on Monday, April 3, 2006 - 03:44 am:

hi
sorry for repeating this message again, i guess i didnt put it in the wright place.
1)i finally got my wff red work under win xp,and all the new games supported for xp r working fine and the forcefeed back works fine too, but it some times shuts down and never apear again, ispecially with need for speed underground 2 and the wheel settings in the game turns off and i cant enter it to control the feedback and its range, why?

2)also when i turn on the force feedback in need for speed most wanted the game freez and the right led of the wheel turns off, eventhough when i put all the forcefeed back settings in the logitech profiler on 2% only, why?
note: it sometimes make the same thing using nfs ug2.

is this due to the driver that i use supported from logitech website "lgs460enu", if yes is thr a newer one.
or because it used to be with serial port, and i changed it to usb.
plz i need answers......
thx