By Anonymous on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 08:37 am:

SideWinder software moves things around and forces itself on to ID1
http://www.wingmanteam.com/discus/messages/5/464.html?WednesdayNovember820000921am

By Anonymous on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 07:03 am:

Hi guys. Im having the same problem here. I have a Wingman Force3D and a Sidewinder FF Wheel. I want to use the pedals of the wheel, but if i have the both joys connected, IL2 detects the wheel as the ID1 and the stick as the ID2. This sucks, cuz i cant use the FF and even adjust the axis at hardware input settings.
I tried the ID Swapp software from wingman team, and i realized that the profiler forces sucessfuly the wingman to the ID1 (i checked it via ID Swapp and dxdiag). The wierd thing is that even when the wingman is on ID1, IL2 still says that he is on ID2 !! this is so wierd!! I think thats maybe something with the Sidewinder Software...

By Anonymous on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 09:18 pm:

see the joyids utility that allows you to assign devices to diferent IDs as you like
http://www.wingmanteam.com/latest_software/gadgets.htm

By mcmuuza on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 06:26 am:

Oh yeah almost forgot...in IL2 i had to go to the control settings, scroll down to the HOTAS bit, then assign my pedal to the rudder control by clicking it and pushing down on one of the pedals(had to push the right one in my case otherwise rudder control was wrong way). Then i put the twist lock on joystick then whoooo!.
This whole solution might only be viable to Windows XP, but could be used to fix problems with other older gameport devices such as gamepads, who knows.

By mcmuzza on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 06:04 am:

I've been searching for hours trying to find a solution to my problem with no luck, had much help on forums before so i will give some back.

Problem: Tried to setup logitech formula GP(gameport) + wingman force 3d together and use the pedals of formula as rudders. Unfortunately there is no way to change formula GP(windows 2-axis 4 button driver) to ID2 in any way possible so could not play IL2 with Force feedback and missed out on setting yaw sensitivity(Most games will only use functions of joystick on ID1).

Solution: Basically switch from using windows 2-axis #-button joystick driver to something else. Logitech don't offer drivers for gameport devices so i found that CH offer some for gameport at: http://www.chproducts.com/retail/tech_chanlg.html

Then had trouble installing these CH drivers - If anyone else does, to fix that goto: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;324767 - will probably need to highlight and copy that link due to the last portion not being underlined.

Now...after installing CH drivers you must go to control panel - game controllers, remove #-axis #-button driver, and click Add button. I went through a few of the CH drivers and found the best one that worked with my logitech wingman formula gp wheel was CH CombatStick. This will pop up a couple of install driver windows which you then choose install automatically from each. Now you go to properties of the CH CombatStick and calibrate it(i was suprised it even recognised the four buttons on my race wheel). Make sure the CH CombatStick isn't the preferred device and your away.

I really hope this helps someone out there cause it took me about five hours to find solution.